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 Post subject: Clarifying the Black Warriors and Shadow Warriors mix-up
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:56 am 
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Is there a "correct" title for Willy's gang? I've seen both of these titles used interchangeably. Does anyone know what the source of this discrepancy is, or if there a confirmed proper translation from the original Japanese which would clear this up?

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The first NES game used the name "Black Warriors". The second NES game used the name "Black Shadow Warriors". Eventually it just got shorten to "the Shadow Warriors".


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Willy is the boss of Black Warriors they disapear after part 2 The Revenge, then comes Duke with his Shadow Warriors in Super Double Dragon... few members of Black Warriors go to Shadow Warriors like Williams, Roper, Jeff.... but no Abobo and Linda


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I think this issue came up in another topic and it was suggested (probably correctly) that the mix up is really just caused by translation style from the original Japanese, and that these two gangs were never meant to be separate- it's just two ways of saying the same gang's name. The responder even mentioned a third translation variation using the name "Black Shadow Warriors". It's never been clear to me but it may not be a relevant distinction.

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This was a good post because I think a lot of people have varying opinions in it.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarifying the Black Warriors and Shadow Warriors mix-up
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The japanese manual for DD1 f.amicom call them Black Warriors.
The japanese manual of DD2 famicom called the foes from the previous adventure, the Black Warriors, and the new enemy the Gen Satsu Ken.
And so does the japanese manual for DD3, still refer them as the Black Warriors.

So the japanese storyline makes a difference between the groups.
Still need to check the japanese manual for Return of double dragon for the super famicom. Also seeing the manual for the GBA game would be good. Unfortunately I don't have those manuals. If someone have some scan, it would be good to post it to give it a look.

I'm not sure, but maybe in the arcade, the bad guys just don't have a name.

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Good point. I think we need to just break it down slow and separate each versions.


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Basically it seems like you can try to interpret the name and gang/gangs in multiple ways.


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