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 Post subject: Re: Clarifying the Abobo and Bolo mix-up
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:15 pm 
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Most of the images I have are stuff I found online through auction sites and other websites, so unfortunately a lot of the stuff I don't personally own (I do have complete copies of the DD2 and DD3 Famicom games, as well as the Super Famicom and PC Engine versions). There's flyers for each of the Double Dragon game released for both, the arcades and consoles (at least for the ones that were published by Technos).

http://www.disk-kun.com/handbills/publisher/technos
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=a ... he+Archive
http://www.gamengai.com/bn_inf.php?id=328 (this one is from RoDD)

Incidentally, the Billy illustration you asked about is from the cover artwork of the Double Dragon III Famicom game, which depicts all four player characters and the comic in the flyer is different from the one in the manual.

As for the other games, the Return of Double Dragon manual has illustrations for all the characters (including Marian, who never appears in-game as you may know), while the instruction card for Double Dragon NG has illustrations for all ten playable characters (don't ask me where there are clean versions though, since the ones in the home version's manual are in black and white).
http://mrdo.mameworld.info/mame_artwork ... l?p=4#here


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The very first issue of Nintendo Power had colorized versions of the character illustrations. While most likely the colorization was done by some in-house artist employed by the editorial staff and not by Technos, I was always curious why they colored Billy with red clothes and Jimmy with blue clothes, when it's supposed to be the other way around. It makes me wonder whether they actually intended Billy to be the red guy all along and Jimmy to be the blue guy.

I mean, Jimmy is supposed to be the older twin after all and it makes more sense for the older brother to be Player 1 if that's the case. It would also explain why the promo illustration for DD2 shows Marian embracing the Lee brother in red or why Billy wears red in the Japanese cover art for the single-player-only Game Boy version. This perhaps might be reason why Billy and Jimmy had their in-game hair colors switched in the NES version as well.

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Yeah, I've wondered for a while why Billy is shown wearing red, in all the Topps cards (both the stickers, and the ). Interestingly, Jimmy doesn't appear, in any of them.

As for their in-game hair palettes, I assumed they were switched due to the NES' limited colour capabilities. Red is used, for sprites' brown hair. So, Jimmy would have both red hair, and red clothes. Perhaps, for this reason, the hair colours were changed in-game first, then in the artwork.

On the other hand, that's exactly what they did with Jimmy (Red hair and clothes), in NES DD II. Which actually brings me to my next point.

If you look at the Gameboy cover art, it's very reminiscent of the style used in the NES DD II cover - even Marian dresses closer to her appearance in arcade DD II, than DD I. Given that NES DD II was released only shortly before the first Gameboy port, I'd guess that they either got the same artist, who made the same mistake; or got one who used the (then current) DD II cover as inspiration.


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The reason why Jimmy's hair was red in DD2 and DD3 on the NES (as far as his in-game sprite is concerned) is because the NES has a limited color palette and because of this, Jimmy uses the same palette used for Billy's hair and skin tone for his outfit. Jimmy's hair is obviously supposed to be blond in those game, going by the character portraits and cut-scenes. Since DD1 for the NES is 1-Player only (well 2-Players alternating, same difference) and he only shows up for the final battle, they had the luxury of his giving his sprite blond hair in that game.

I think the Japanese cover artist for the Game Boy DD1 (whose name is Kazumi Kakizaki or かきざき和美) might had indeed been the same person who was commissioned to do the DD2 artwork, but I have no evidence of this other than the similar style. Kakizaki also did the Japanese flyer art for the arcade version of DD3. Her signature appears in both works (in the DD1GB cover, it appears between the Nintendo and Game Boy logos on the lower left corner, on the DD3 flyer it's on the lower right corner).
http://flyers.arcade-museum.com/?page=t ... db&id=6122
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I took a look to the scans, the images are too small to be able to read detailly, but I didn't find any reference to "Jick".

above the screen of the green abobo it says "Obstacle!!! Abobo Dojo"

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Thanks, I appreciate that you took the time.

In the meantime, Wikipedia looks like it's already deemed "Jick" as canon. I'm pretty sure that it uses the same scan, as a reference. Until I see anything to convince me otherwise, I'm going to assume that Wikipedia is wrong (shock and horror!!)

For now, I'm thinking that Abobo is the common surname of both big men, in DD1. Which would actually mean that the live-action movie was right about something!!

Which makes me wonder ... what might their first names be?!


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Great find, Seimei! And welcome to the DD Dojo forums!

Unfortunately, warosu wouldn’t allow me the hotlinks directly to those images (I don’t know if anybody else had that problem), so you can find the thread at https://warosu.org/vr/thread/S3700487#p3722664

Exactly where you end up on the page seems a bit random, so you may want to search for the phrase “Dumping Famitsu's review of the original Double Dragon”, on the page.

Anyway, all three pages of the Japanese review are there, and can be zoomed in. I still can’t read Kanji, so again I’m requesting help, on this one.

IN THE MEANTIME …

There is enough evidence that the bald miniboss is named Abobo, from NES-related material. See the , and the (okay, I still can’t read the kanji, but I do recognize them – but if I’m wrong on that one, please correct me).

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